Recent comments by presidential hopeful Michele Bachmann have stirred up the discussion about gay marriage once again. While speaking to a group of high school…
I typically avoid talking politics.
I might raise certain issues, like the death penalty, but I have no interest in endorsing either major party or any specific candidate. I think the proper term is aggressively nonpartisan, which essentially means neither party’s platform looks anything like the message of Jesus to me.
So, keep that in mind, because I’m going to discuss Michele Bachmann, but it’s not about the politics.
A few weeks ago, Liberty University featured Bachmann as their convocation speaker.
That’s not the issue though, they can have whatever speaker they would like, and I’m sure Bachmann is the sort of speaker you would like if you like that sort of thing.
The issue is the hermenutical gymnastics Liberty has to engage in to feature a female candidate for this nation’s highest office, while at the same time being opposed to women holding the highest office in a local church.

It’s a perfect example of picking and choosing when our principles apply.
Now, as I’ve discussed before, we all end up picking and choosing when we read the Bible. Look down at your clothes, any of them made of more than one material? Then you pick and choose too.
And that’s fine, inevitable even. The important thing is that we realize why we pick and choose the way we do, that we are intentional about our method of interpretation, and that we attempt to be consistent and reasonable about it.
When your school offers a Women’s Ministries degree that trains women for career paths like “Women’s Ministry Director in the Local Church, Teen Girl Camp Counselor, Women’s Conference Coordinator, Teen Girl/ Women’s Conference Speaker” – in other words anything but teaching men – does it seem consistent to invite a female presidential candidate to speak at your school?
If women shouldn’t be pastors because they are too naïve (Eve was the one deceived by the serpent after all!), or because male headship is the natural order, or because they are somehow weaker or less capable, or simply because God ordained that they shouldn’t have authority over men, then why would it make any sense to have a female president?
And if you’re fine with a woman as president, or professor, or CEO, then what sort of hermeneutical gymnastics are necessary to say yes to all that and yet no to women as pastors?
If you want Bachmann for president that’s fine [well, not to me, but that has nothing to do with her gender], and if you don’t want to let women be pastors no one can make you, but I don’t see how you can have both and pretend it is consistent.
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Can’t wait to hear the responses on this one. As far as blaming Eve, think about it this way, she was deceived. Adam knew better and still rebelled. I agree that men are called to be leaders…pastors, heads of households, etc. But God did choose to use women in key roles in the Bible…i.e. Deborah and Esther.
Also remember, God didn’t want man to be a country’s leader either. Israel wanted a king because everyone else wanted one….This is a very good post, thought provoking and it lives up to its name…provoketive.
AMEN!
Thanks for speaking out on this glaring inconsistency! We need more men willing to do so. (When only women speak out, it confirms the complementarians fears that upstart women will take over the church! haha.) It is truly sad that so much of the church is missing out on the gifted women leaders in their midst, who must use their gifts in the secular world instead.
Yes, the inconsistencies are also prevalent in education. We allow women to teach academic subjects to men up through college, but in the church they cannot teach the scriptures to men. The ‘role’ of women smacks of cultural interpretation, more than Biblical mandate.
Mason, my friend Tom Oord has recently written a bit of a tongue-in-cheek post on his blog about this issue. You ought to check it out: http://thomasjayoord.com/index.php/blog/archives/why_men_should_not_be_pastors/
Well, ahem, I’m only reading this now. Your title turned me off to wanting to read it, with Michelle Bachman in it, and I almost clicked anyway the other day …
All I can say, cuz I’m tired and short on words today is yep. Inconsistent they are. EFCA is too. You can go to seminary, but you can’t get ordained or pastor.
Phooey.
This is an excellent healing article I read today.
http://www.patheos.com/Resources/Additional-Resources/Open-Letter-to-Women-in-Seminary-Kyle-Robert-11-01-2011?offset=0&max=1
Ah, what a great article. Fantastic point! I never even thought about that before. Hear hear!
Why many Christians believe women should not be pastors is not because of their intrinsic inability to be such. But that’s not it at all! We believe this way because God said so: The Apostle Paul unambigulously said women should not be in Christian roles of leadership, and that command is given as part of the Holy Bible, the Word of God.
You can argue all you want that any of the other twelves tribes would have been capable priests. But God commanded that only Levite men be priests. And even then, it was male priests. And the Twelve Apostles were men. God calls the shots. Mary Magdaline was extremely important, as was Jesus’ mother, but they weren’t formally apostles, either.
We drive cars on the right (in America) because the law says so. Yes, we’re perfectly capable of driving just as well on the left, but the law is the final word.
I am a male femenist at heart. I am dying for someone to give me a compelling reason to doubt my interpretation and believe women should be pastors. But I’m still waiting.
Adam, I don’t know if you meant to sound so harsh, but you do. And I don’t think you’ll every find your answer with that kind of stance.
I get your response, but the to base a community aspect on a cultural distinction is not the best place to start. First the “law” you so aptly defend is always trumped by a single law of love. And Paul’s own “commands” are always trumped by the bigger kingdom law of love. You’ve chosen to see his command as universal. I get that. But if you do then you have to work it against Paul’s own words elsewhere where he says, “there is now Jew or Gentile, male or female.” Or, “everything is lawful but not profitable.” It’s easy to agree with the prevailing notion when it suits your purposes as a male. But when women feel oppressed by the mandate not to participate in leadership, then something is wrong.
Keep searching brother.
Adam,
Paul’s statements are far from unambiguous. In fact, there are many contextual issues which can explain those difficult passages in quite a different light, and at many points Paul assumes women are (rightly) preaching and serving as apostles and messengers.
If you’re honestly looking for a good case for a egalitarian reading of these passages I would recommend starting with this essay by N.T. Wright – http://www.ntwrightpage.com/Wright_Women_Service_Church.htm – and reading McKnight’s “The Blue Parakeet” and Payne’s “Man and Woman, One in Christ”
Adam, I don’t think you came across as harsh at all. I liked your comment for its logical style and for this one simple truth: “We believe this way because God said so.” Of course, there will always be different interpretations of what God said, but without the underlying desire to determine truth honestly and regardless of our own personal preferences, all Christian theologizing is meaningless.
Mason, thanks for posting that link; I’m sure it will make an interesting read here in a couple minutes.
Regarding Liberty: every year, the university invites every person (from the two major parties) who files with the FEC as a presidential candidate or formally declares that they are running for president. This year, Rick Perry and Michelle Bachmann accepted. In 2008, Mike Huckabee and Alan Keyes (who gave an awesome speech) accepted. It’s not an endorsement of any candidate, and actually LU’s administration goes through great pains to not endorse or belittle any candidate or even any political party (one of few good things I have to say about the current university administration). So, while I find this article interesting, its main point is based off of a misconception.